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Uneducated Hicks vs. Sophisticated Global Warming Advocates 
21st-Apr-2008 11:30 am
Who wins?

Well, as it turns out, the hicks.

When I launched the TalkClimateChange forums last year, I was initially worried as to where I would find people who didn’t believe in global warming. I had planned to create a furious debate, but in my experience global warming was such a universally accepted issue that I expected to have to dredge the slums of the internet in order to find a couple of deniers who could keep the argument thriving.

The first few days were slow going, but following a brief write-up of my site by Junk Science I was swamped by climate skeptics who did a good job of frightening off the few brave Greens who slogged out the debate with. Whilst there was a lot of rubbish written, the truth was that they didn’t so much frighten the Greens away - they comprehensively demolished them with a more in depth understanding of the science, cleverly thought out arguments, and some very smart answers. If you want to learn about the physics of convection currents, gas chromatography, or any number of climate science topics then read some of the early debates on TalkClimateChange. I didn’t believe a word of it, but I had to admit that these guys were good.

In the following months the situation hardly changed. As the forum continued to grow, as the blog began to catch traffic, and as I continued to try and recruit green members I continued to be disappointed with the debate. In short, and I am sorry to say it, anti-greens (Reds, as we call them) appear to be more willing to comment, more structured, more able to quote peer reviewed research, more apparently rational and apparently wider read and better informed.

Don't tell Al Gore. Tip of the hat to Tim Blair
22nd-Apr-2008 02:10 pm (UTC)

Of course, the mainstream media will never accept it, since they're already declared that the global warming debate "is already over". Sigh.
22nd-Apr-2008 03:44 pm (UTC)
Stopping debate is a good strategy if you can't debate well.
13th-May-2008 04:02 am (UTC)
So basically the stupid have inherented the earth. Wonderful.
13th-May-2008 04:16 am (UTC)
As it turns out, the "stupid" are more articulate, better informed, and know how to argue better than the "intelligent". And they know one basic truth very well: there is no scientific discovery which is not amenable to logic, and any logical failure is a failure of the science.

I'd think about the categories in quotes, and where you assign them, vegashomes.
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