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Liberal Fascism 
8th-Nov-2011 01:29 pm
Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg is worth reading, quite illuminating, and useful for those of us who tend to let people define themselves but not allow them to define others. The quotes of political figures by themselves make it an interesting book.

For those who have decided they already know their cause, so further historical research is unnecessary, it is not recommended.
8th-Nov-2011 09:39 pm (UTC)
For those of us who actually know what Fascism is, who have met and spoken with real live Fascists, who have on occasion had to run away from the blackshirt boys, and who have studied the origins, ideology and history of Fascism where Fascism was born and killed, it is a dumb joke.
8th-Nov-2011 10:02 pm (UTC)
As I said, I don't recommend it for everyone. You are doubtless already familiar with Mussolini's ardent socialism. Not everyone is. Many people assume that Father Coughlin was a conservative of some sort, not the critique of FDR from the left. The alignment of President Wilson with the dictatorial approach, and his contempt for democracy, is not taught in most schools. For these reasons, and because of the quotes behind them, I found this a useful book. It may not perfectly resemble your discussion of Italian fascism. But it isn't about that. It is about the American left. Italian fascism is just discussed in passing.
8th-Nov-2011 10:13 pm (UTC)
Mussolini's ardent socialism lasted until 1914. Fascism began as a complete denial of socialism in every sense, warmongering (Mussolini was a keen pacifist until 1914), class-bolstering, immoralistic and so on. Mussolini's party was set up to crush and destroy Socialism by force (in this it has a lot in common with Woodrow Wilson's hysterical assault on American liberties after 1919). Fascism has as much in common with with Socialism as foxes have with chickens. But Goldberg finds it convenient, for party political advantage, to pretend otherwise.
8th-Nov-2011 10:19 pm (UTC)
Time for you to re-read his writings in the 1940s, perhaps. Or even in Salo, reminding his biographer that he had always been a socialist. Crushing socialists? Part and parcel of being a socialist. See Spain. Warmongering was simply the mode of organization he preferred: only later was it something he did. Maybe if you read more in the 1920's, perhaps: the decade of his greatest international success?

I allow people to speak for themselves. It's a knack.
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