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Ethicist’s Stunning Challenge: Why Wait Until a Patient Is Dead to Harvest Organs? | TheBlaze.com 
9th-Apr-2013 07:02 pm
Ethicist’s Stunning Challenge: Why Wait Until a Patient Is Dead to Harvest Organs? | TheBlaze.com

You know, it takes work to sink this low. It takes determined, painstaking ignorance and bullheaded stupidity.

And we have people willing to make that effort.

Called "ethicists."

Stop laughing!

He thinks he is serious.
10th-Apr-2013 05:56 am (UTC)
What the "ethicist" thinks he is arguing for is the harvesting organs from patients still technically "alive" but doomed to die within a matter of hours to minutes. If it could be confined to that, I actually wouldn't have much problem with doing so, because the patients would spend those hours to minutes comatose in any case.

What the "ethicist" is missing is that, once this harvesting had been allowed, it would be extremely hard to avoid sliding down the slippery slope to a full-on Organ Draft, as in Robert Silverberg's "Caught in the Organ Draft" (1972) or to the execution of those convicted for minor crimes for organ harvesting as in Larry Niven's version of the 21st century (the latter, note, has already started in China).

There are logical reasons why some rules have to be morally absolute, even though there may be a short-term net social good advantage to violating them!

10th-Apr-2013 03:32 pm (UTC)
Logical reasons ought to be understood by those describing themselves as medical ethicists. In this case, he is merely disgracing the institutions whose credentials he waves.
10th-Apr-2013 08:18 am (UTC)
Of course he’s serious.

So is cancer – and plague – and every other enemy of human life.
10th-Apr-2013 03:39 pm (UTC)
But if he's serious, he would understand the ethical background for his own statements. He shows no evidence of having done so. Instead, he's just a guy with a credential granted by an institution which didn't take the trouble to educate him first. A clown. And. like most clowns, a little grotesque and scary.
10th-Apr-2013 03:50 pm (UTC)
A swing and a miss, I’m afraid. I was playing upon the different meanings of ‘serious’. He is not at all serious about ethics, but the fact that such a person can pass himself off as an ethicist is a symptom of a serious disorder.
10th-Apr-2013 03:57 pm (UTC)
Ah. My mistake.
10th-Apr-2013 04:02 pm (UTC)
Not to worry.
10th-Apr-2013 11:03 am (UTC)
The current criterion for organ harvesting is brain-death. The body is still nominally alive, even if it's being breathed for so that the heart is supplied with oxygenated blood. When circulation stops, those organs are pretty-much ruined.

If what he wants to do is harvest organs before brain-death has been shown to occur (and there are very clear rules on how this must properly be done), I think he's fucking crazy and ought to be publicly censured, possibly sacked.
10th-Apr-2013 03:36 pm (UTC)
I'm into public ridicule, myself. Make him into the joke he so obviously is. Use his name as a metonym for bad advice, for example. "Right, that would be the Glennon advice. Remove both legs for cancer in the right leg, and he'll never have leg cancer again."
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